{"id":11538,"date":"2025-05-07T01:48:01","date_gmt":"2025-05-07T05:48:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ariasvilla.com\/?p=11538"},"modified":"2025-05-07T01:51:36","modified_gmt":"2025-05-07T05:51:36","slug":"president-trumps-1000-voluntary-deportation-initiative-is-it-realistic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ariasvilla.com\/es\/president-trumps-1000-voluntary-deportation-initiative-is-it-realistic\/","title":{"rendered":"President Trump&#8217;s $1,000 Voluntary Deportation Initiative: Is It Realistic?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wpb-content-wrapper\"><div class=\"vc_row wpb_row vc_row-fluid\"><div class=\"wpb_column vc_column_container vc_col-sm-12\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\">\t\t<div id=\"wd-681ae34a3eae0\" class=\"wd-text-block wd-wpb reset-last-child wd-rs-681ae34a3eae0 text-left\">\n\t\t\t<blockquote>\n<p>Today on America Radio 1260 AM, I joined Sandra Peebles and Ori\u00e1n Brito to discuss President Trump&#8217;s recent proposal offering migrants $1,000 to voluntarily leave the U.S. through the CBP Home app. The administration hopes this initiative will encourage undocumented individuals to leave voluntarily, reducing the government&#8217;s costs, which exceed $17,000 per forced deportation.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_row wpb_row vc_row-fluid\"><div class=\"wpb_column vc_column_container vc_col-sm-12\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\">\t\t<div id=\"wd-681ae38debb5e\" class=\"wd-text-block wd-wpb reset-last-child wd-rs-681ae38debb5e text-left\">\n\t\t\t<p>While this might initially sound appealing to some, we discussed the complexities and real-world implications. Legally speaking, the guarantees provided by this initiative are quite limited. The President cannot unilaterally change inadmissibility laws, so migrants might face significant legal barriers if they attempt to return legally in the future.<\/p>\n<p>We also highlighted that interest in this program remains low, primarily due to mistrust and fear of potential complications. Immigration enforcement continues intensifying locally, further complicating decisions for many migrants.<\/p>\n<p>Staying informed and consulting with an immigration attorney remains essential, given the rapidly changing immigration landscape. I&#8217;ll continue addressing these important issues. Follow me to stay updated and informed. For personalized legal assistance, contact my office at 305-671-0018 or follow me on social media.<\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_row wpb_row vc_row-fluid\"><div class=\"wpb_column vc_column_container vc_col-sm-12\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"vc_separator wpb_content_element vc_separator_align_center vc_sep_width_100 vc_sep_pos_align_center vc_separator_no_text vc_sep_color_grey\" ><span class=\"vc_sep_holder vc_sep_holder_l\"><span class=\"vc_sep_line\"><\/span><\/span><span class=\"vc_sep_holder vc_sep_holder_r\"><span class=\"vc_sep_line\"><\/span><\/span>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_row wpb_row vc_row-fluid\"><div class=\"wpb_column vc_column_container vc_col-sm-12\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"vc_empty_space\"   style=\"height: 32px\"><span class=\"vc_empty_space_inner\"><\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_row wpb_row vc_row-fluid\"><div class=\"wpb_column vc_column_container vc_col-sm-12\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\">\n\t<div class=\"wpb_video_widget wpb_content_element vc_clearfix vc_video-aspect-ratio-169 vc_video-el-width-80 vc_video-align-center wd-rs-681aea5d652c1\" >\n\t\t<div class=\"wpb_wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<div class=\"wpb_video_wrapper\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Plan de Trump: $1,000 para Autodeportaci\u00f3n Voluntaria | Noticias Migratorias con Martha Arias\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/NY-1z9v5v6E?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; 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Para hablarnos y expandir el tema nos acompa\u00f1a ahora Ori\u00e1n Brito y su invitada Martha Arias, analista y abogada de inmigraci\u00f3n. Buenos d\u00edas a ambos.<\/p>\n<p>Ori\u00e1n:<br \/>\nBuenos d\u00edas, Sandra. Para toda la audiencia, inmigraci\u00f3n, como lo hemos dicho, es un tema que todos los d\u00edas genera noticias. En las \u00faltimas horas, no solo esta propuesta controversial del presidente Donald Trump de ofrecer un estipendio de mil d\u00f3lares para los migrantes que decidan deportarse de manera voluntaria utilizando la aplicaci\u00f3n CBP Home. Tambi\u00e9n hay temas relacionados con el parole humanitario y, por supuesto, todo lo que esto genera y la incertidumbre que entre tantos migrantes a esta hora existe. Quisiera comenzar, perd\u00f3n, esta conversaci\u00f3n con la abogada Martha Arias sobre esta propuesta, no mil d\u00f3lares, un estipendio que hace el presidente Trump para buscar acelerar estas deportaciones que generan un costo que supera los 17,000 d\u00f3lares, una deportaci\u00f3n forzada, decir, bien ejecutada, que incluye la detenci\u00f3n, establecer un vuelo para que el migrante sea devuelto a su pa\u00eds. Todo ese proceso tiene un costo alrededor de 17,000 d\u00f3lares. Y la idea del gobierno es reducir esto y al mismo tiempo aumentar los n\u00fameros de deportados. Abogada, buenos d\u00edas.<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nBuenos d\u00edas, Ori\u00e1n. Un saludo para usted, Sandra y toda la audiencia de Am\u00e9rica Radio. Feliz comienzo de d\u00eda.<\/p>\n<p>Ori\u00e1n:<br \/>\nAs\u00ed es bueno. Igualmente para usted. Bueno, mil d\u00f3lares. Este monto. \u00bfC\u00f3mo funcionar\u00e1 esto? Y si realmente cu\u00e1l es el plan. \u00bfConsidera usted que hay detr\u00e1s de todo esto?<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nBueno, yo pienso que lo que hay detr\u00e1s de todo esto obviamente es lograr que el mayor n\u00famero de personas se vayan, pero tambi\u00e9n reducir, como dijo usted, los costos que le genera al gobierno federal deportar a las personas en forma forzada. Como usted bien lo dijo, todo incluye una log\u00edstica que va desde los oficiales de ICE que tienen que hacer operativos para arrestar a la persona, despu\u00e9s los costos de detenci\u00f3n que incluyen alimentaci\u00f3n, tambi\u00e9n todo el personal de seguridad. Y en este momento, como hay la idea que tiene la administraci\u00f3n es deportar al mayor n\u00famero de personas, los centros de detenci\u00f3n que tiene ICE o que tiene inmigraci\u00f3n no dan abasto. El gobierno tiene unos centros de detenci\u00f3n que los maneja a trav\u00e9s de un contrato que tiene con GEO, G-I-O. Esto es una compa\u00f1\u00eda privada que pues maneja esos centros de detenci\u00f3n y ah\u00ed hay un l\u00edmite. Por ejemplo, aqu\u00ed en Miami, Krome est\u00e1 a su m\u00e1xima capacidad. Hab\u00eda gente en los pasillos, subsanada, pero no daba abasto con el n\u00famero de personas detenidas. Lo mismo en BTC. Aqu\u00ed en el sur de la Florida est\u00e1n esos dos. Hay uno en Los Cayos y antes hab\u00eda uno en Glades que lo quitaron porque a veces se hacen acuerdos con las c\u00e1rceles locales para que los detengan, pero si el gobierno federal va a hacer un acuerdo con la c\u00e1rcel local para que albergue detenidos de inmigraci\u00f3n, tiene que pagarles. Y usted sabe que esos son contratos millonarios. Entonces, pues a ello pienso que una de las mayores razones o motivaciones que tiene el gobierno en implementar este plan.<\/p>\n<p>Ori\u00e1n:<br \/>\nAbogada, un tema tambi\u00e9n que c\u00f3mo funciona todo este proceso, seg\u00fan la informaci\u00f3n que hay en el Departamento de Seguridad Nacional. El inmigrante ingresa a esta aplicaci\u00f3n CBP Home, coloca sus datos, env\u00eda hasta una fotograf\u00eda de \u00e9l y posteriormente pues es contactado para darle su boleto y el dinero se le da cuando llega ya al pa\u00eds.<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nS\u00ed, es correcto. El dinero se le da cuando llega y tiene que hacer, como usted lo dice, todo el registro en la aplicaci\u00f3n CBP Home y una de las cosas que dice el gobierno es que se le promete a la persona que no ser\u00e1 sujeto a detenci\u00f3n aqu\u00ed en los Estados Unidos.<\/p>\n<p>Ori\u00e1n:<br \/>\nY se le promete, entre comillas, que podr\u00eda tener una oportunidad de regresar de una forma legal a Estados Unidos. \u00bfQu\u00e9 garant\u00eda realmente hay de que esto sea as\u00ed?<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nSinceramente, mi opini\u00f3n legal, las garant\u00edas creo que son pocas y lo digo bajo la ley. La ley, el Estatuto de Inmigraci\u00f3n, tiene unas normas que establecen cu\u00e1ndo una persona es inadmisible para venir a los Estados Unidos. Entonces, esa inadmisibilidad es una ley org\u00e1nica del estatuto, es una ley org\u00e1nica del Congreso de los Estados Unidos. Entonces, el presidente, en su funci\u00f3n como jefe del Ejecutivo, no puede cambiar una ley org\u00e1nica. Entonces, tendr\u00eda que ser con otra ley del Congreso. Yo veo poco posible eso, que se les pueda, a no ser que haya, pues vuelvo, repito, una ley del Congreso que m\u00e1s adelante permitiera que esas personas que usaron el CBP Home puedan ser exoneradas de, por ejemplo, la sanci\u00f3n o la penalidad por inadmisibilidad, es decir, por haber estado ilegales m\u00e1s de un a\u00f1o, por ejemplo, la inadmisibilidad por tener una orden de deportaci\u00f3n, que en algunos casos son de cinco o diez a\u00f1os, etc\u00e9tera. Pues ah\u00ed s\u00ed yo considero que para que esa promesa sea realmente v\u00e1lida y efectiva tendr\u00eda que el presidente, a trav\u00e9s de su liderazgo, pasar alguna ley en el Congreso porque de lo contrario no veo c\u00f3mo lo puedan hacer.<\/p>\n<p>Sandra:<br \/>\nClaro. \u00bfSe sabe sobre las personas que ya pudieran haber aprovechado esta oportunidad? S\u00e9 que hasta el momento no han sido muchos que est\u00e1n corriendo para recibir esos mil d\u00f3lares y autodeportarse.<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nNo, parece que no han sido muchos. No han sido muchos. Las personas son realmente esc\u00e9pticas, tienen miedo de esta aplicaci\u00f3n, tienen miedo de los retos que se puedan presentar, o sea, todas las cosas que se puedan presentar de los requisitos. Entonces yo no creo que muchas personas est\u00e9n dispuestas a hacerlo. Es m\u00e1s, yo creo que la gente m\u00e1s f\u00e1cil se va calladitos porque todo el mundo en este momento est\u00e1 en un poquito de estado nervioso por la situaci\u00f3n. No s\u00e9, pues no creo que sea una soluci\u00f3n que vaya a traer muchas personas. Creo que m\u00e1s personas se est\u00e1n yendo por su propia cuenta.<\/p>\n<p>Sandra:<br \/>\nVan a esperar a ver c\u00f3mo se desarrolle la situaci\u00f3n.<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nEl programa, s\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>Ori\u00e1n:<br \/>\nClaro. Y no es para menos el temor. Son m\u00e1s de 500 condados los que ya en municipios y estados que han asumido control migratorio que habitualmente es potestad del gobierno. Y lo que dicen los sheriffs de algunos de ellos, seg\u00fan reportes que hemos le\u00eddo en prensa, es que bueno, defienden esta medida porque quieren proteger a su comunidad. Y bueno, por supuesto, lo importante en este momento es que ese migrante, abogada, en esta situaci\u00f3n del limbo migratorio no pierda el tiempo y se asesore porque cada d\u00eda que pasa todo puede complicarse para esa persona. \u00bfNo?<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nCorrecto. Pero es tambi\u00e9n una situaci\u00f3n que nosotros mismos los abogados estamos pendientes porque como usted mismo se ha dado cuenta todos los d\u00edas o muy frecuentemente salen \u00f3rdenes ejecutivas con nuevas pol\u00edticas y eso pues ocasiona que incluso uno como abogado tiene que estar vigilante a esas nuevas pol\u00edticas. Le doy un ejemplo de algo muy importante. Mire, la semana pasada sali\u00f3 un memor\u00e1ndum de la oficina que maneja las cortes que se llama Executive Office for Immigration Review, EOIR. Esta oficina emiti\u00f3 un memor\u00e1ndum que obviamente el p\u00fablico y muchas personas que no son abogados pues no est\u00e1n atentos a ellos, pero nosotros los abogados tenemos que estarlo si queremos ser competentes en nuestro trabajo. El memor\u00e1ndum que se emiti\u00f3 la semana pasada es dirigido a los jueces y a establecer la pol\u00edtica que se debe aplicar en las cortes. Ese memor\u00e1ndum dice que los jueces tienen la potestad de prohibirle a una persona continuar con su asilo y no ir hasta la audiencia final de demostrar las pruebas y todo. La palabra legal en ingl\u00e9s se llama pretermitt. Entonces, el juez, al momento, vamos a decir en la audiencia preliminar que la Audiencia Master, la Audiencia General o Preliminar, el juez va a mirar ese asilo y va a decir, bueno, por ejemplo, si usted tiene doble nacionalidad o hasta tres nacionalidades, mire se\u00f1or, usted no califica para ese asilo, yo voy a pretermitt, es decir, no le voy a permitir continuar y ya, y la persona no va a tener la posibilidad de ir a una audiencia final.<\/p>\n<p>Sandra:<br \/>\nBueno, Martha, Ori\u00e1n, vamos a hacer una breve pausa, pero vamos a seguir hablando de este tema tan interesante y guiando a las personas que tal vez nos est\u00e1n escuchando, que se encuentran en esta situaci\u00f3n de estar aqu\u00ed sin estatus y que obviamente les es de gran valor. Ya regresamos enseguida con m\u00e1s aqu\u00ed en las ma\u00f1anas de Am\u00e9rica Radio, conversando con la abogada de inmigraci\u00f3n Martha Arias y con nuestro periodista Ori\u00e1n Brito. Ya volvemos en solo momentos.<\/p>\n<p>Sandra:<br \/>\nRegreso en las ma\u00f1anas de Am\u00e9rica Radio. Estamos conversando con Ori\u00e1n Brito, nuestro periodista de Am\u00e9rica TV, tambi\u00e9n con su invitada Martha Arias, analista y abogada de inmigraci\u00f3n. Estamos hablando sobre esta incertidumbre que est\u00e1 ofreciendo la administraci\u00f3n de Donald Trump de mil d\u00f3lares para que las personas que est\u00e1n aqu\u00ed sin estatus regular se autodeporten. Tenemos a Rolando en l\u00ednea para unirse a la conversaci\u00f3n. Buenos d\u00edas.<\/p>\n<p>Rolando:<br \/>\nYo, el estado de ejecutiva es interesante y yo otra vez se lo he mencionado. Hay que prestar mucha atenci\u00f3n a todo este tipo de decisiones que toma Donald Trump, ya que su equipo que tiene en este mandato esta vez est\u00e1 mucho m\u00e1s engranado y tiene muchas m\u00e1s connotaciones. Yo creo que hay que analizarla bien cerca. Yo ya miro de otra perspectiva. Estado de ejecutiva de autodeportaci\u00f3n. Quiz\u00e1s ahora, en un pa\u00eds donde ahora tenemos millones de personas ilegales dentro del pa\u00eds, a unos cuantos miles les convenga y decidan irse. He visto en las redes cubanos que se han autodeportado y han ido para Cuba. En la medida que va pasando el tiempo, no s\u00e9 qu\u00e9 ustedes piensen, que siguen estas redadas contra los ilegales y los deporten por las malas, la probabilidad de terminar deportados por las malas va aumentando. Y es una decisi\u00f3n que tiene la persona que est\u00e1 ilegal que dice, me voy por las malas o me voy por las buenas. Y yo creo que en la medida que pasa el tiempo muchas personas van a preferir, mira, me voy de buena gana, con los mil d\u00f3lares y no estoy preso, ni paso por los malos ratos, eso de estar esposados, etc\u00e9tera, etc\u00e9tera. Creo que es una medida que est\u00e1 encaminada hacia el futuro. Y ahora en estos momentos le da la oportunidad a esas personas que miren que se acreditan en el delito que siempre hay entre millones, va a unos cuantos miles que no van a querer hacer. En cuanto a las c\u00e1rceles que dec\u00eda la abogada que est\u00e1n llenas, abarrotadas, \u00bfqu\u00e9 pasa? S\u00ed, la c\u00e1rcel est\u00e1 llena, pero la cantidad de influjo que entra, hay que ser igual al influjo que pasa. Y muchas personas est\u00e1n siendo deportadas y est\u00e1n manteniendo las c\u00e1rceles llenas. Algo que va con la pol\u00edtica de Trump de expulsar a todas las personas que est\u00e1n ilegales dentro del pa\u00eds. Muchas gracias por la oportunidad. Me encanta el programa que yo le llamo &#8220;Manejando con Sandra&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Sandra:<br \/>\n\u00a1Ah! \u00a1Fant\u00e1stico! \u00a1Me encanta! \u00a1Much\u00edsimas gracias, Rolando, por llamarnos! Y bueno, \u00bfc\u00f3mo lo ven? Abogada, la palabra es suya.<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nS\u00ed, bueno, me parece bien, o sea, es un punto de vista. Las personas, como dice \u00e9l, van a querer usar ese sistema por miedo a una detenci\u00f3n y pues habr\u00e1 quienes lo hagan y otros no, \u00bfcierto? O sea, que este es un programa que tiene sentido en el sentido de que puede ahorrar dinero al gobierno y obviamente esfuerzos log\u00edsticos de detenci\u00f3n, de aprehensi\u00f3n y de hacer el proceso final.<\/p>\n<p>Ori\u00e1n:<br \/>\nAbogada, quisiera perder esta conversaci\u00f3n sin hablar del tema del parole humanitario, porque un juez ha decidido, un tribunal de apelaciones ha decidido mantener este programa que beneficia a migrantes de Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua y Hait\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nS\u00ed, efectivamente. El parole se va a continuar. Lo orden\u00f3 eso, pues, por lo menos como medida cautelar hasta que la decisi\u00f3n del litigio salga. El litigio contin\u00faa. Lo que se extendi\u00f3 fue el parole a trav\u00e9s de una medida cautelar. Es decir, \u00e9l dice, mientras dure este litigio, pues van a continuar con ese parole, los que lo tengan vigente. Entonces, mi opini\u00f3n es que es sano que lo que se llama el &#8220;check and balance&#8221; de la Constituci\u00f3n, el chequeo o el balance entre los poderes p\u00fablicos, opere. En este caso, las partes demandantes consideraron que hab\u00eda un da\u00f1o, un perjuicio grave para las partes que terminara el parole en forma prematura, sobre todo aquellos que estaban todav\u00eda vigentes en su parole. Entonces, mientras la corte toma una decisi\u00f3n constitucional o su posici\u00f3n, las personas pueden continuar. Me parece que es correcto. Finalmente, tendremos una decisi\u00f3n que sea buena o no nos guste, va a ser la decisi\u00f3n que analiza esa ley o esa constituci\u00f3n y tendremos que acatarla.<\/p>\n<p>Sandra:<br \/>\nPero la realidad es vertiginosa porque todos los d\u00edas hay una nueva decisi\u00f3n, un nuevo fallo. Ten\u00edamos que iban a deportar a las personas que estaban bajo el parole humanitario y ahora hay una reversa, una marcha atr\u00e1s con ese tema. Y la verdad que es dif\u00edcil, especialmente para la persona que est\u00e1 en ese limbo. Claro, esto es una esperanza para esas personas, como quiera. La verdad es que es muy dif\u00edcil mantenerse al tanto de lo que est\u00e1 sucediendo porque son tantas las medidas y tantas las que proponen y rechazan y proponen y rechazan. As\u00ed es. Que es confuso.<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nS\u00ed, totalmente. Estoy de acuerdo con usted. Esto crea un poco de ansiedad en las personas, tambi\u00e9n en nosotros los abogados, incluso, d\u00e9jeme decirle, los mismos oficiales de inmigraci\u00f3n que tienen que aplicar. Ellos, ellos, claro, bien, son parte del proceso y son personas que tambi\u00e9n tienen que estar informados y tienen una orden un d\u00eda y al d\u00eda siguiente tienen otra. O sea, que todos estamos en esa misma situaci\u00f3n de un poquito de ansiedad y de confusi\u00f3n. Pero mire, esta es mi opini\u00f3n. Las personas, yo lo dije desde el principio que sali\u00f3 este parole humanitario, me parec\u00eda una medida que no iba a ser muy exitosa porque darles parole a las personas para que vengan por dos a\u00f1os y a los dos a\u00f1os, \u00bfqu\u00e9? \u00bfQu\u00e9 pasaba despu\u00e9s de los dos a\u00f1os? Esa persona iba a quedar en el limbo jur\u00eddico. Los cubanos de pronto no porque tienen la Ley de Ajuste Cubano, pero los otros pa\u00edses, Venezuela, Nicaragua, \u00bfqu\u00e9? Y todo lo estamos viendo en este momento es exactamente lo mismo. Yo le dec\u00eda a una pareja que vino en estos d\u00edas a mi oficina, esposo y esposa con un hijo menor. Y yo le dec\u00eda, d\u00e9jenme preguntarles una cosa, siendo nicarag\u00fcenses, sabiendo que no hay una Ley de Ajuste Cubano para ustedes, obviamente, \u00bfqu\u00e9 pensaban ustedes que iba a pasar despu\u00e9s de los dos a\u00f1os? Porque para m\u00ed era muy claro que despu\u00e9s de los dos a\u00f1os seguramente no iba a haber una extensi\u00f3n del parole y ven\u00eda una administraci\u00f3n tal vez republicana que seguramente tampoco. Entonces, \u00bfcu\u00e1l era la idea? Porque yo no me hubiera desubicado en mi pa\u00eds y venir pensando en que despu\u00e9s de los dos a\u00f1os qu\u00e9 iba a hacer. \u00bfC\u00f3mo le iba a causar todo este cambio a mi hijo para despu\u00e9s no&#8230;? Ahora, si es una persona sola, como una joven que tuve de Venezuela, muchacha joven de 24 a\u00f1os, soltera, vino aprovechando su tiempo, aprendi\u00f3 ingl\u00e9s y se vuelve. Bueno, buen\u00edsimo. Tomaron dos a\u00f1os de haber aprendido un nuevo idioma, estar legal, poder trabajar y regresar en su pa\u00eds. Pero entonces yo pienso que esa medida del parole humanitario, aunque ayud\u00f3 a que muchas personas no entraran por la frontera, tambi\u00e9n caus\u00f3 trastornos familiares como lo que estamos viendo ahora, que en cierta forma esto se ve\u00eda venir.<\/p>\n<p>Sandra:<br \/>\nClaro, eso siempre me ha quedado a m\u00ed como una maniobra que fue responsable, que no estuvo bien pensada tampoco, y siempre me cuestiono las motivaciones.<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nLas motivaciones que dijo el gobierno era que la gente no entrara por la frontera, o sea, supuestamente salvar las vidas de las personas que estaban cruzando por el Tap\u00f3n del Dari\u00e9n y que no se arriesgaran a todos los peligros que eso causaba. Y de hecho, s\u00ed se mostr\u00f3 una reducci\u00f3n del ingreso de personas ilegales por la frontera. Pero pues no s\u00e9 si la&#8230; O sea, yo digo, se redujo esa entrada ilegal, pero ahora entonces la presencia ilegal se va a aumentar. O sea, por un lado se baj\u00f3, pero por el otro va a subir.<\/p>\n<p>Ori\u00e1n:<br \/>\nClaro, es que al final fueron como estrategias, yo lo dir\u00eda en t\u00e9rminos coloquiales, pa\u00f1itos de agua caliente que no se transformaron en una soluci\u00f3n a una crisis migratoria que est\u00e1bamos viendo constantemente en la frontera, \u00bfno?<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nExacto. Son medidas que s\u00ed se vieron en su momento, pero a largo plazo si se analizaba se sab\u00eda que esas personas iban a entrar seguramente, la mayor\u00eda que no ten\u00eda una soluci\u00f3n a un caso de asilo y tal vez un asilo que tal vez no era meritorio. Entonces se iba a causar no una fila en la frontera, pero tal vez un aumento de la inmigraci\u00f3n ilegal en el pa\u00eds o un aumento de los casos de corte. Entonces, por cualquier lado que se mire, iba a causar un aglomeramiento en las cortes o en alguna parte.<\/p>\n<p>Ori\u00e1n:<br \/>\nPor cierto, con este tema de los asilos que me comentaba, abogada, \u00bfya ha tenido informaci\u00f3n de, por ejemplo, personas con doble nacionalidad que ya les haya llegado, por ejemplo, esta notificaci\u00f3n de que luego de revisarlo no procede ese caso?<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nNo tengo yo, gracias a mi Dios, esa experiencia en mi oficina, pero s\u00ed en los chats, en otros grupos de abogados de inmigraci\u00f3n que tengo. En esos grupos hemos visto, no aqu\u00ed en Miami, en otros estados, por ejemplo, en Texas, en California, jueces que ya han dicho que en aplicaci\u00f3n a ese memor\u00e1ndum le proh\u00edben continuar a la persona con su asilo o lo pretermitt. Entonces s\u00ed, los jueces lo est\u00e1n aplicando y vamos a empezar a verlo m\u00e1s porque esto, como le digo, fue un memor\u00e1ndum que sali\u00f3 la semana pasada y todav\u00eda los jueces est\u00e1n en ese proceso de aplicarlo. Lo que a m\u00ed me preocupa es precisamente eso, que como van a empezar a aplicar eso, esas personas van a empezar a recibir deportaciones y deportaciones y posiblemente esos son los que digan, bueno, va a usar el CBP Home porque al recibir la deportaci\u00f3n pueden ser detenidos para ejecutarse esa deportaci\u00f3n.<\/p>\n<p>Sandra:<br \/>\nBueno, ya se nos acaba el tiempo, desafortunadamente. Tan interesante esta conversaci\u00f3n, la verdad que sin lugar a dudas Martha Arias, vamos a tenerte en el programa m\u00e1s seguido porque son tantos los temas de inmigraci\u00f3n, como bien dice Ori\u00e1n, que surgen a cada d\u00eda y que necesitan clarificaci\u00f3n, \u00bfno? Porque necesitan ser esclarecidos para que las personas sepan qu\u00e9 est\u00e1 sucediendo. Much\u00edsimas gracias a ambos.<\/p>\n<p>Ori\u00e1n:<br \/>\nHoy es martes y la abogada va a estar en Am\u00e9rica Radio esta noche a las 7 y responder\u00e1 dos preguntas de inmigraci\u00f3n para que no se lo pierdan con su programa.<\/p>\n<p>Sandra:<br \/>\nEse es su programa habitual, \u00bfes as\u00ed?<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nCorrecto, s\u00ed. Todos los martes a las siete de la noche aqu\u00ed en Am\u00e9rica Radio estamos contestando las preguntas de los oyentes y tambi\u00e9n yo doy estas noticias en la forma m\u00e1s simple y f\u00e1cil que las personas entiendan.<\/p>\n<p>Sandra:<br \/>\nClaro. Much\u00edsimas gracias, abogada. Muy importante el servicio que ofrece, especialmente en estos d\u00edas que estamos viviendo. Much\u00edsimas gracias.<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nAsimismo, gracias a ustedes y feliz d\u00eda.<\/p>\n<p>Sandra:<br \/>\nFeliz d\u00eda.<\/p>\n\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_row wpb_row vc_row-fluid\"><div class=\"wpb_column vc_column_container vc_col-sm-12\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"vc_separator wpb_content_element vc_separator_align_center vc_sep_width_100 vc_sep_pos_align_center vc_separator_no_text vc_sep_color_grey\" ><span class=\"vc_sep_holder vc_sep_holder_l\"><span class=\"vc_sep_line\"><\/span><\/span><span class=\"vc_sep_holder vc_sep_holder_r\"><span class=\"vc_sep_line\"><\/span><\/span>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_row wpb_row vc_row-fluid\"><div class=\"wpb_column vc_column_container vc_col-sm-12\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\">\t\t<div id=\"wd-681af2d264e50\" class=\"wd-text-block wd-wpb reset-last-child wd-rs-681af2d264e50 text-left\">\n\t\t\t<p>ENGLISH TRANSCRIPT:<\/p>\n<p>Sandra:<br \/>\nMigrants who decide to voluntarily deport themselves from the United States could receive up to one thousand dollars as part of a new initiative by President Donald Trump\u2019s administration that seeks to encourage the departure of undocumented people and reduce the high costs of forced deportations, which can reach up to seventeen thousand dollars per person. To talk to us and expand on the topic, we are now joined by Ori\u00e1n Brito and his guest Martha Arias, analyst and immigration attorney. Good morning to both of you.<\/p>\n<p>Ori\u00e1n:<br \/>\nGood morning, Sandra. For the entire audience, immigration, as we have said, is a topic that generates news every day. In the last few hours, not only this controversial proposal from President Donald Trump offering a one thousand dollar stipend for migrants who decide to voluntarily deport themselves using the CBP Home app, but also issues related to humanitarian parole and, of course, all the uncertainty that exists among so many migrants at this time. I would like to begin, sorry, this conversation with attorney Martha Arias about this proposal, not one thousand dollars, a stipend that President Trump is offering to try to accelerate these deportations that generate a cost that exceeds seventeen thousand dollars, a forced deportation, that is, well-executed, which includes detention, arranging a flight for the migrant to be returned to their country. The whole process has a cost of around seventeen thousand dollars. And the government&#8217;s idea is to reduce this and at the same time increase the number of deported individuals. Attorney, good morning.<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nGood morning, Ori\u00e1n. Greetings to you, Sandra, and the entire audience of Am\u00e9rica Radio. Happy start of the day.<\/p>\n<p>Ori\u00e1n:<br \/>\nThat\u2019s right. Likewise, to you. Well, one thousand dollars. This amount. How will this work? And really, what is the plan? What do you think is behind all this?<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nWell, I think that what is behind all this obviously is to get the largest number of people to leave, but also to reduce, as you said, the costs that forced deportations generate for the federal government. As you said well, it includes logistics that go from ICE officers who have to conduct operations to arrest the person, then the detention costs, which include food, also all the security personnel. And at this time, since the administration\u2019s idea is to deport the largest number of people, the detention centers that ICE or immigration have are not enough. The government has detention centers managed through a contract it has with GEO, G-I-O. This is a private company that manages those detention centers, and there is a limit. For example, here in Miami, Krome is at full capacity. There were people in the hallways, overcrowded, but it could not handle the number of detainees. The same in BTC. Here in South Florida, there are those two. There is one in the Keys, and there used to be one in Glades, which they removed because sometimes agreements are made with local jails to detain them, but if the federal government makes an agreement with a local jail to house immigration detainees, it has to pay them. And you know those are million-dollar contracts. So, I think that one of the main reasons or motivations the government has in implementing this plan is to reduce costs.<\/p>\n<p>Ori\u00e1n:<br \/>\nAttorney, another topic is how this whole process works. According to the information available from the Department of Homeland Security, the immigrant enters this CBP Home app, enters their data, sends even a photograph of themselves, and later they are contacted to give them their ticket, and the money is given when they arrive in the country.<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nYes, that is correct. The money is given when they arrive, and they have to do, as you said, all the registration in the CBP Home app. And one of the things the government says is that the person is promised that they will not be subject to detention here in the United States.<\/p>\n<p>Ori\u00e1n:<br \/>\nAnd they are promised, in quotes, that they could have an opportunity to return legally to the United States. What guarantee is there that this will really happen?<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nHonestly, in my legal opinion, I think the guarantees are few, and I say this under the law. The Immigration Statute has rules that establish when a person is inadmissible to come to the United States. That inadmissibility is an organic law of the statute, it is an organic law of the U.S. Congress. So, the president, in his role as head of the Executive Branch, cannot change an organic law. It would have to be with another law from Congress. I see it as unlikely unless, as I repeat, there is a law from Congress that later allows those who used the CBP Home to be exempted from, for example, the penalty for inadmissibility, such as having been illegal for more than a year, or inadmissibility for having a deportation order, which in some cases are five or ten years, etc. So, I believe that for that promise to really be valid and effective, the president, through his leadership, would have to pass a law in Congress because otherwise, I don&#8217;t see how they can do it.<\/p>\n<p>Sandra:<br \/>\nOf course. Do we know about people who may have already taken advantage of this opportunity? I know that so far not many have rushed to receive those one thousand dollars and self-deport.<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nNo, it seems that there have not been many. There have not been many. People are really skeptical, they are afraid of this app, they are afraid of the challenges that may arise, all the things that may come up in the requirements. So, I don&#8217;t think many people are willing to do it. In fact, I think more people just leave quietly because everyone at this moment is a little nervous about the situation.<\/p>\n<p>Sandra:<br \/>\nThey will wait to see how the situation develops.<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nThe program, yes.<\/p>\n<p>Ori\u00e1n:<br \/>\nOf course. And it&#8217;s not surprising, the fear. There are more than five hundred counties and municipalities that have already assumed immigration control, which is usually a power of the federal government. And what some sheriffs of these counties say, according to reports we have read in the press, is that they defend this measure because they want to protect their community. And, of course, the important thing right now is that this migrant, attorney, in this situation of immigration limbo, does not waste time and seeks legal advice because each day that passes, everything can become more complicated for that person. Right?<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nCorrect. But it is also a situation that we lawyers ourselves are monitoring because, as you have noticed, every day or very frequently, executive orders come out with new policies, and that requires even us as attorneys to be vigilant about those new policies. I\u2019ll give you an example of something very important. Last week, a memorandum came out from the office that handles the courts called the Executive Office for Immigration Review, EOIR. This office issued a memorandum that obviously the public and many people who are not lawyers are not aware of, but we lawyers have to be if we want to be competent in our work. The memorandum issued last week is directed to the judges and establishes the policy that should be applied in the courts. That memorandum says that judges have the power to prohibit a person from continuing with their asylum case and not go to the final hearing to present their evidence and everything. The legal word in English is &#8220;pretermitt.&#8221; So, the judge, at the preliminary hearing, let&#8217;s say the Master Calendar Hearing, the General or Preliminary Hearing, the judge will review that asylum case and will say, for example, if you have dual nationality or even three nationalities, &#8220;Look sir, you do not qualify for that asylum, I will pretermitt it,&#8221; that is, &#8220;I will not allow you to continue,&#8221; and the person will not have the possibility of going to a final hearing.<\/p>\n<p>Sandra:<br \/>\nWell, Martha, Ori\u00e1n, we are going to take a short break, but we will continue talking about this very interesting topic and guiding people who may be listening to us and are in this situation of being here without status and for whom this information is obviously very valuable. We will be right back with more here on Las Ma\u00f1anas de Am\u00e9rica Radio, talking with immigration attorney Martha Arias and our journalist Ori\u00e1n Brito. We will return in just a few moments.<\/p>\n<p>Sandra:<br \/>\nWe\u2019re back on Las Ma\u00f1anas de Am\u00e9rica Radio. We are speaking with Ori\u00e1n Brito, our journalist from Am\u00e9rica TV, and also with his guest Martha Arias, analyst and immigration attorney. We are talking about this uncertainty stemming from the Trump administration\u2019s offer of one thousand dollars for people who are here without regular status to self-deport. We have Rolando on the line to join the conversation. Good morning.<\/p>\n<p>Rolando:<br \/>\nYes, this executive order is interesting and, as I\u2019ve mentioned before, we must pay close attention to these kinds of decisions made by Donald Trump since his team this time around is much more coordinated and has many more implications. I believe it must be analyzed very carefully. I already see it from another perspective. An executive order of self-deportation, perhaps now, in a country where we now have millions of illegal people, a few thousand might find it convenient and decide to leave. I\u2019ve seen on social media that some Cubans have self-deported and returned to Cuba. As time goes on \u2014 I don\u2019t know what you all think \u2014 these raids against undocumented people continue, and the chance of being forcibly deported increases. It\u2019s a decision for the person who\u2019s undocumented to make: do I leave forcibly or voluntarily? And I think as time goes by, many people will prefer, \u201cLook, I\u2019ll leave willingly, take the thousand dollars, and I won\u2019t be jailed or have to endure the bad times of being handcuffed and so on.\u201d I think it\u2019s a measure aimed at the future. Right now, it gives an opportunity to those who \u2014 let\u2019s admit it \u2014 among millions, there will be a few thousand who will not want to accept it.<\/p>\n<p>As for the jails the attorney mentioned, that they are full, overcrowded \u2014 what happens? Yes, the jail is full, but the amount of people coming in must equal the amount leaving. And many people are being deported, keeping the jails full. That aligns with Trump\u2019s policy of removing all the undocumented people in the country. Thank you for the opportunity. I love the program. I call it \u201cDriving with Sandra.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Sandra:<br \/>\nAh! Fantastic! I love it! Thank you so much, Rolando, for calling us. Well, what do you think? Attorney, the floor is yours.<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nYes, well, I think it\u2019s a valid point of view. As he says, some people will want to use that system out of fear of detention, and, well, there will be those who choose to and others who won\u2019t, right? So this is a program that makes sense in that it can save the government money and obviously reduce the logistical efforts of detention, apprehension, and carrying out the final process.<\/p>\n<p>Ori\u00e1n:<br \/>\nAttorney, I wouldn\u2019t want to finish this conversation without discussing humanitarian parole, because a judge has decided \u2014 an appeals court has decided \u2014 to maintain this program that benefits migrants from Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, and Haiti.<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nYes, indeed. Parole will continue. It was ordered, at least as a precautionary measure until a decision in the ongoing litigation is reached. The litigation continues. What was extended was the parole through a precautionary measure. That is, it says that while this litigation lasts, they will continue with that parole for those who currently have it. So, my opinion is that it\u2019s good that the \u201ccheck and balance\u201d of the Constitution \u2014 the checks and balances among the public powers \u2014 operates. In this case, the plaintiffs argued that ending parole prematurely would cause severe harm, especially to those whose parole was still valid. So, while the court makes a constitutional decision or states its position, people can continue. I think it\u2019s correct. In the end, we will have a decision \u2014 whether we like it or not \u2014 that analyzes the law or the Constitution, and we will have to comply with it.<\/p>\n<p>Sandra:<br \/>\nBut the reality is dizzying because every day there is a new decision, a new ruling. We thought they were going to deport people who were under humanitarian parole, and now there\u2019s a reversal, a step back on that issue. And the truth is, it\u2019s difficult, especially for people who are in that limbo. Of course, this is hope for those people, but it\u2019s very difficult to stay updated on what\u2019s happening because there are so many measures, so many proposals and rejections and proposals and rejections. It\u2019s confusing.<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nYes, totally. I agree with you. This creates a bit of anxiety for people, and also for us, the attorneys \u2014 even, let me tell you, for the immigration officers themselves who have to enforce the policies. They are, of course, part of the process and are also people who must stay informed and who receive one order one day and another the next. So, we are all in the same situation of a little anxiety and confusion. But look, this is my opinion. I said it from the beginning when this humanitarian parole came out: it seemed to me like a measure that wasn\u2019t going to be very successful because giving parole to people for two years and then after two years \u2014 what? What would happen after those two years? That person would end up in legal limbo. Cubans, maybe not, because they have the Cuban Adjustment Act, but people from other countries, Venezuela, Nicaragua \u2014 what then? And what we\u2019re seeing now is exactly that.<\/p>\n<p>I told a couple who recently came to my office \u2014 husband, wife, and a minor child \u2014 I asked them, \u201cBeing Nicaraguan, knowing there is no Cuban Adjustment Act for you, what did you think was going to happen after two years?\u201d Because to me, it was very clear that after those two years there probably wouldn\u2019t be an extension of the parole, and maybe a Republican administration would come that also wouldn\u2019t extend it. So, what was the plan? Because I wouldn\u2019t have uprooted myself from my country to come thinking, \u201cWhat will I do after the two years?\u201d How was I going to cause all this change for my child only to then&#8230; nothing?<\/p>\n<p>Now, if it\u2019s a single person, like a young Venezuelan woman I had \u2014 24 years old, single \u2014 she came, took advantage of the time, learned English, and returned. Well, excellent. She took two years to learn a new language, stay legal, work, and then return to her country. But I think that while the humanitarian parole helped prevent many people from entering through the border, it also caused family disruptions like what we are now seeing, which in a way, was foreseeable.<\/p>\n<p>Sandra:<br \/>\nOf course. That\u2019s always stuck with me \u2014 that it was a responsible maneuver, but it wasn\u2019t well thought out, and I always question the motivations.<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nThe motivations the government gave were to keep people from entering through the border \u2014 supposedly to save the lives of people who were crossing through the Dari\u00e9n Gap and facing all the dangers that entails. And indeed, a reduction in illegal entries at the border was shown. But, well, I don\u2019t know if \u2014 I mean, I say illegal border crossings decreased, but now the illegal presence inside the country is going to increase. So, on one hand it went down, but on the other, it\u2019s going up.<\/p>\n<p>Ori\u00e1n:<br \/>\nRight. In the end, they were strategies \u2014 I would say in colloquial terms \u2014 \u201cband-aid\u201d solutions that didn\u2019t become an answer to the ongoing migration crisis we were constantly seeing at the border.<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nExactly. These were measures that were seen at the time, but if you analyzed them in the long term, it was clear that those people were going to come in anyway \u2014 most of whom didn\u2019t have a solution for an asylum case or perhaps had an asylum case that wasn\u2019t likely to succeed. So, it would cause not a line at the border but perhaps an increase in illegal immigration in the country or an increase in court cases. So, whichever way you looked at it, it was going to cause a backlog in the courts or elsewhere.<\/p>\n<p>Ori\u00e1n:<br \/>\nBy the way, regarding asylum cases that you mentioned, attorney, have you heard of people with dual nationality who have already received a notice stating that, after review, their case does not proceed?<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nI haven\u2019t had that experience in my office, thank God, but yes, in chats and other immigration attorney groups I belong to, we have seen cases \u2014 not here in Miami but in other states, for example, Texas, California \u2014 where judges have already said that, applying that memorandum, they will not allow the person to continue with their asylum case, or they will pretermitt it. So yes, judges are applying it, and we are going to start seeing it more because, as I said, it was a memorandum that came out last week, and judges are still in the process of applying it. What concerns me is precisely that, that as they begin to apply this, those people will start receiving deportation orders, and possibly they will be the ones who say, \u201cWell, I\u2019m going to use the CBP Home app,\u201d because upon receiving the deportation order, they can be detained so that the deportation can be carried out.<\/p>\n<p>Sandra:<br \/>\nWell, unfortunately, we are out of time. This conversation has been very interesting. Without a doubt, Martha Arias, we are going to have you on the program more often because there are so many immigration topics, as Ori\u00e1n rightly says, that arise every day and need clarification so that people know what\u2019s happening. Thank you both very much.<\/p>\n<p>Ori\u00e1n:<br \/>\nToday is Tuesday, and the attorney will be on Am\u00e9rica Radio tonight at 7 PM answering immigration questions, so don\u2019t miss her program.<\/p>\n<p>Sandra:<br \/>\nThat\u2019s your usual program, right?<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nCorrect, yes. Every Tuesday at seven in the evening here on Am\u00e9rica Radio, we answer listeners\u2019 questions and I also provide this news in the simplest and easiest way for people to understand.<\/p>\n<p>Sandra:<br \/>\nOf course. Thank you very much, attorney. The service you provide is very important, especially these days.<\/p>\n<p>Martha Arias:<br \/>\nLikewise. 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