{"id":11872,"date":"2026-02-27T19:28:10","date_gmt":"2026-02-28T00:28:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ariasvilla.com\/?p=11872"},"modified":"2026-06-03T22:31:00","modified_gmt":"2026-06-04T02:31:00","slug":"a-federal-judge-blocks-third-country-deportations","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ariasvilla.com\/es\/a-federal-judge-blocks-third-country-deportations\/","title":{"rendered":"A Federal Judge Blocks Third-Country Deportations"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wpb-content-wrapper\"><div class=\"vc_row wpb_row vc_row-fluid\"><div class=\"wpb_column vc_column_container vc_col-sm-12\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\">\n\t<div class=\"wpb_text_column wpb_content_element\" >\n\t\t<div class=\"wpb_wrapper\">\n\t\t\t<blockquote><p>\nYesterday, I spoke with journalist <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@orianbrito\"><strong>Orian Brito<\/strong><\/a> about a very important federal court decision issued in Massachusetts on February 25. The judge halted a key deportation practice: sending immigrants to a third country without first attempting removal to the country listed on the final order of removal, and without giving the person meaningful notice and a real opportunity to object.<\/p>\n<p>This matters because it is not only a legal issue \u2014 it is a due process issue.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_row wpb_row vc_row-fluid\"><div class=\"wpb_column vc_column_container vc_col-sm-12\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"vc_separator wpb_content_element vc_separator_align_center vc_sep_width_100 vc_sep_pos_align_center vc_separator_no_text vc_sep_color_grey\" ><span class=\"vc_sep_holder vc_sep_holder_l\"><span class=\"vc_sep_line\"><\/span><\/span><span class=\"vc_sep_holder vc_sep_holder_r\"><span class=\"vc_sep_line\"><\/span><\/span>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_row wpb_row vc_row-fluid\"><div 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style=\"height: 32px\"><span class=\"vc_empty_space_inner\"><\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_row wpb_row vc_row-fluid\"><div class=\"wpb_column vc_column_container vc_col-sm-12\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"vc_separator wpb_content_element vc_separator_align_center vc_sep_width_100 vc_sep_pos_align_center vc_separator_no_text vc_sep_color_grey\" ><span class=\"vc_sep_holder vc_sep_holder_l\"><span class=\"vc_sep_line\"><\/span><\/span><span class=\"vc_sep_holder vc_sep_holder_r\"><span class=\"vc_sep_line\"><\/span><\/span>\n<\/div><div class=\"vc_empty_space\"   style=\"height: 32px\"><span class=\"vc_empty_space_inner\"><\/span><\/div>\t\t<div id=\"wd-69a236619daeb\" class=\"wd-text-block wd-wpb reset-last-child wd-rs-69a236619daeb text-left\">\n\t\t\t<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a href=\"#spanish\">SPANISH TRANSCRIPT<\/a><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00a0 \u00a0|\u00a0<\/span> \u00a0<a href=\"#english\">ENGLISH TRANSLATION<\/a><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"vc_empty_space\"   style=\"height: 32px\"><span class=\"vc_empty_space_inner\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"vc_separator wpb_content_element vc_separator_align_center vc_sep_width_100 vc_sep_pos_align_center vc_separator_no_text vc_sep_color_grey\" ><span class=\"vc_sep_holder vc_sep_holder_l\"><span class=\"vc_sep_line\"><\/span><\/span><span class=\"vc_sep_holder vc_sep_holder_r\"><span class=\"vc_sep_line\"><\/span><\/span>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_row wpb_row vc_row-fluid\"><div class=\"wpb_column vc_column_container vc_col-sm-12\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\">\t\t<div id=\"wd-69a22ca3d662d\" class=\"wd-text-block wd-wpb reset-last-child wd-rs-69a22ca3d662d text-left\">\n\t\t\t<h3>What the judge said (in practical terms)<\/h3>\n<p>The decision explains that when someone has a final order of deportation, that order typically specifies where the government must remove the person, and sometimes also lists an alternative country. The problem addressed by the judge is that, under the policy being challenged, people could be sent to completely different countries \u2014 places where they have no ties, no support network, and in many cases, serious fear of harm.<\/p>\n<p>The court found that this policy was being applied without meaningful notice and without a real chance to challenge the removal to a third country. In other words, a person could be placed on a path toward being sent somewhere unexpected, without time to prepare or defend themselves.<\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_row wpb_row vc_row-fluid\"><div class=\"wpb_column vc_column_container vc_col-sm-12\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\">\t\t<div id=\"wd-69a22ca3d662d\" class=\"wd-text-block wd-wpb reset-last-child wd-rs-69a22ca3d662d text-left\">\n\t\t\t<h3>The 15-day window<\/h3>\n<p>The judge\u2019s order includes a 15-day pause, which means that for a limited period, the government could still attempt to continue implementing this policy while the case progresses. After that, we must watch what happens next, including whether there is an appeal and whether additional court orders follow.<\/p>\n<h3>A practical step for people in detention<\/h3>\n<p>For those who are detained \u2014 especially those who do not have a lawyer \u2014 I shared a very practical recommendation: put your fear in writing immediately. Even a handwritten letter is better than silence. If you fear being sent to a third country, communicate that fear clearly and document your objection.<\/p>\n<p>In the interview, I referenced the case name as: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.supremecourt.gov\/opinions\/24pdf\/24a1153_2co3.pdf\"><strong>DVD v. Department of Homeland Security<\/strong><\/a> (D\u2013V\u2013D).<\/p>\n<h3>Domestic travel while you have a case pending<\/h3>\n<p>Orian also raised a question many people are asking right now: \u201cCan I travel within the United States if I have a pending case, like asylum?\u201d My recommendation remains cautious: if the trip is not urgent, avoid travel for now. Enforcement activity has been increasing and can be unpredictable. If travel is unavoidable, it is important to carry proof of your pending case and any valid documentation you have.<\/p>\n<h3>A final reminder about social media<\/h3>\n<p>We also discussed something that too many people underestimate: social media matters. Immigration processes \u2014 including consular matters \u2014 can involve review of online presence. Even if someone deletes a post, it may still be retrievable. I strongly recommend staying respectful, avoiding threats or violent language, and treating every post as permanent.<\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_row wpb_row vc_row-fluid\"><div class=\"wpb_column vc_column_container vc_col-sm-12\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"vc_separator wpb_content_element vc_separator_align_center vc_sep_width_100 vc_sep_pos_align_center vc_separator_no_text vc_sep_color_grey\" ><span class=\"vc_sep_holder vc_sep_holder_l\"><span class=\"vc_sep_line\"><\/span><\/span><span class=\"vc_sep_holder vc_sep_holder_r\"><span class=\"vc_sep_line\"><\/span><\/span>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_row wpb_row vc_row-fluid\"><div class=\"wpb_column vc_column_container vc_col-sm-6\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\">\t\t<div id=\"wd-69a22ca3d662d\" class=\"wd-text-block wd-wpb reset-last-child wd-rs-69a22ca3d662d text-left\">\n\t\t\t<p>If you have questions about your situation, please do not rely on rumors or \u201cwhat happened to a friend.\u201d Every case is different, and a small detail can change the outcome.<\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"wpb_column vc_column_container vc_col-sm-6\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\">\t\t<div id=\"wd-6a20d9e7095f2\" class=\"wd-text-block wd-wpb reset-last-child wd-rs-6a20d9e7095f2 text-left\">\n\t\t\t<h4>Contact my office: <a href=\"https:\/\/ariasvilla.com\/es\/contact-us\/\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">SEND A MESSAGE<\/span><\/a><\/h4>\n<p><strong>Office:<\/strong> <a href=\"tel:+13056710018\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">(305) 671-0018<\/span><\/a><br \/>\n<strong>WhatsApp:<\/strong> <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/wa.me\/13052333110\">(305) 233-3110<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_row wpb_row vc_row-fluid vc_custom_1772236659744 wd-rs-69a22f5d45752\"><div class=\"wpb_column vc_column_container vc_col-sm-12\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\">\t\t<div id=\"wd-69a22ca3d662d\" class=\"wd-text-block wd-wpb reset-last-child wd-rs-69a22ca3d662d text-left\">\n\t\t\t<p><em>Legal disclaimer: This post is general information and does not create an attorney-client relationship. For legal advice, you must schedule a consultation and receive guidance based on your specific facts.<\/em><\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_row wpb_row vc_row-fluid\"><div class=\"wpb_column vc_column_container vc_col-sm-12\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"vc_separator wpb_content_element vc_separator_align_center vc_sep_width_100 vc_sep_pos_align_center vc_separator_no_text vc_sep_color_grey\" ><span class=\"vc_sep_holder vc_sep_holder_l\"><span class=\"vc_sep_line\"><\/span><\/span><span class=\"vc_sep_holder vc_sep_holder_r\"><span class=\"vc_sep_line\"><\/span><\/span>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div id=\"spanish\" class=\"vc_row wpb_row vc_row-fluid wd-rs-69a236782766c\"><div class=\"wpb_column vc_column_container vc_col-sm-12\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\">\t\t<div id=\"wd-69a2641b25e51\" class=\"wd-text-block wd-wpb reset-last-child wd-rs-69a2641b25e51 text-left\">\n\t\t\t<p><strong>Spanish Transcript<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nHola, hoy es un buen d\u00eda, amigos. Gracias por estar all\u00ed, por conectarse con este espacio. As\u00ed que los invito a todos a que se conecten porque hay buenas noticias. Un juez federal en Massachusetts acaba de frenar una pr\u00e1ctica clave en materia de deportaciones. La corte dictamin\u00f3 que el gobierno de Trump no puede enviar inmigrantes a un tercer pa\u00eds sin antes intentar deportarlos al pa\u00eds que figura en su orden final de expulsi\u00f3n y sin otorgarles la oportunidad de defenderse.<\/p>\n<p>La decisi\u00f3n de este juez establece que las autoridades deben dar una notificaci\u00f3n sustancial antes de cualquier expulsi\u00f3n a un tercer pa\u00eds. Recordemos que hay varios\u2026 Ecuador, incluso pa\u00edses de \u00c1frica, que est\u00e1n en la lista, garantizando as\u00ed el debido proceso y la posibilidad de impugnar la deportaci\u00f3n.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bfQu\u00e9 significa eso en la pr\u00e1ctica? \u00bfA qui\u00e9n protege esta decisi\u00f3n? Puede cambiar la forma en la que se est\u00e1 ejecutando las deportaciones actualmente. Hoy me acompa\u00f1a la abogada de inmigraci\u00f3n Martha Arias, que me alegra much\u00edsimo tenerla. Ten\u00eda d\u00edas busc\u00e1ndola, pero bueno, ha estado muy full; se logr\u00f3 y aqu\u00ed estamos. Abogada, un placer.<\/p>\n<p>ABOGADA MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nGracias, Orian. Un saludo para usted y toda su audiencia. Y s\u00ed, bueno, un poco ocupadita. Como dicen en Colombia, palabra que me parece chistosa, \u201c<em>un poco escasa<\/em>, pero aqu\u00ed estoy&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nBueno, pero est\u00e1\u2026<\/p>\n<p>ABOGADA MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nEsa es una palabra c\u00f3mica para aplicarla a las personas.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nY aplica cuando las personas est\u00e1n bastante ocupadas, cuando ya\u2026 Y por supuesto, estos cambios en materia migratoria tienen a muchos profesionales como usted corriendo de aqu\u00ed para all\u00e1 con sus clientes. Pero me alegra que hoy nos reencontremos con una buena noticia. \u00bfC\u00f3mo eval\u00faa la decisi\u00f3n de este juez y c\u00f3mo podr\u00eda impactar a esos migrantes que tienen orden de deportaci\u00f3n, por ejemplo?<\/p>\n<p>ABOGADA MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nA ver, \u00bfc\u00f3mo puede impactar a los que tienen orden de deportaci\u00f3n, dice usted?<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nS\u00ed, y sobre todo, bueno, recordemos que tambi\u00e9n esta estrategia de que migrantes vayan a un tercer pa\u00eds tambi\u00e9n, y usted puede corregirme, afectaba a las personas que est\u00e1n solicitando asilo, que los llevaban a un tercer pa\u00eds a esperar.<\/p>\n<p>ABOGADA MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nExacto. Bueno, \u00bfc\u00f3mo los afecta? En este momento lo que hizo este juez de Massachusetts del d\u00eda de ayer, febrero 25, como usted lo dijo, fue n\u00famero uno, anular esa pol\u00edtica administrativa actual de DHS, Department of Homeland Security, de ICE, de deportar personas a terceros pa\u00edses. La anula. Sin embargo, da una pausa de 15 d\u00edas. Es decir, dentro de los pr\u00f3ximos 15 d\u00edas, a partir de esta decisi\u00f3n, el gobierno puede implementar o continuar implementando esta pol\u00edtica. Despu\u00e9s de 15 d\u00edas, vamos a ver si se apela y si se dar\u00eda una medida cautelar mientras est\u00e1 la apelaci\u00f3n.<\/p>\n<p>Entonces, en 15 d\u00edas podemos ver todav\u00eda estas deportaciones. Despu\u00e9s de 15 d\u00edas vamos a esperar a ver. La buena noticia, como dice usted, es que la pol\u00edtica es anulada. A ver, \u00bfcu\u00e1les son las razones por las que el juez anula esta pol\u00edtica? Hay dos cosas importantes. Una, la considera ilegal y dos, inconstitucional. Ilegal porque viola derecho a ley federal. E inconstitucional, obviamente, porque viola la Constituci\u00f3n y espec\u00edficamente el debido proceso.<\/p>\n<p>La orden dice el juez que a estas personas no se les da una notificaci\u00f3n significativa de que van a ser deportados a un tercer pa\u00eds, eso es lo primero. Lo segundo es que tampoco se les da una oportunidad real de desafiar u objetar esa remoci\u00f3n a un tercer pa\u00eds; y ah\u00ed es donde no s\u00e9 si quiere que le explique\u2026 La situaci\u00f3n que est\u00e1 pasando con estas deportaciones a terceros pa\u00edses, como usted lo dijo, es si una persona tiene una deportaci\u00f3n porque ha tenido una deportaci\u00f3n de tiempo atr\u00e1s y lo coge a ICE, pues lo puede deportar no a su pa\u00eds, sino a ese tercer pa\u00eds. Como usted bien lo dijo, muchas personas que est\u00e1n aplicando para asilo, ten\u00edan un asilo pendiente, tambi\u00e9n pues obten\u00edan esta deportaci\u00f3n o lo pod\u00edan deportar a terceros pa\u00edses.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bfQu\u00e9 pasa, Orian? Cuando una persona tiene una orden final de deportaci\u00f3n, la orden final de deportaci\u00f3n dice el juez a d\u00f3nde se va a deportar la persona y si hay un pa\u00eds alternativo. Le doy un ejemplo: una persona va y pide asilo. La persona es, por decir algo, de Venezuela. El juez dice: se ordena la deportaci\u00f3n a Venezuela y en el alternativo a Italia, si la persona tambi\u00e9n es ciudadana de Italia. Y si fuera as\u00ed, si no se ordena a Venezuela, \u00bfqu\u00e9 pasa? Pues viene y coge esta persona y la manda para Sud\u00e1n, para Uganda, por all\u00e1, al fin del mundo. Eso es una.<\/p>\n<p>No tiene contacto, no tiene lazos, ni nunca ha estado en Uganda o en Sud\u00e1frica o en no s\u00e9 d\u00f3nde y la est\u00e1 mandando para all\u00e1. Pero el juez cuando orden\u00f3 la deportaci\u00f3n dijo que la persona era deportada a Venezuela. Entonces ah\u00ed ya tenemos un problema, porque es que el juez no dijo que la deportaran a Sud\u00e1frica, Uganda o al fin del mundo. Dijo: deporten a Venezuela o en el alternativo a X pa\u00eds.<\/p>\n<p>Entonces ah\u00ed tenemos un problema porque se est\u00e1 violando la ley, la ley dice que la persona debe ser deportada a ese pa\u00eds.<\/p>\n<p>Segundo, la persona tiene derecho a objetar o a que se le d\u00e9 notificaci\u00f3n. Entonces, si a la persona la cogen y la mandan para Uganda sin que le diga: \u201cMire, se\u00f1or fulano, a usted no lo van a mandar para Venezuela, lo van a mandar al fin del mundo\u201d, esa persona tiene derecho a decir: \u201cNo, es que a m\u00ed me van a matar en el fin del mundo tambi\u00e9n o tengo miedo de ir al fin del mundo, \u00bfsabe qu\u00e9?, m\u00e1ndeme para Venezuela\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Esa es\u2026 sencillamente no es ni siquiera que el gobierno est\u00e1 diciendo\u2026 este gobierno est\u00e1 diciendo: \u201custed no lo puede deportar\u201d. En t\u00e9rminos generales lo que est\u00e1 diciendo es: se le debe dar notificaci\u00f3n con anterioridad significativa y se le debe dar la oportunidad a que objete.<\/p>\n<p>Eso es lo que da esta decisi\u00f3n. Las agencias sin \u00e1nimo de lucro que est\u00e1n demandando estos casos son agencias que est\u00e1n haciendo, vamos a decir, todo el trabajo, poniendo el m\u00fasculo, como dicen en ingl\u00e9s, para ayudar a los inmigrantes en esta situaci\u00f3n tan dif\u00edcil como son las deportaciones a terceros pa\u00edses.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\n\u00bfPor qu\u00e9 se utilizaba esto como pol\u00edtica? Y me llama la atenci\u00f3n su apreciaci\u00f3n porque f\u00edjese, por ejemplo, en el caso de pa\u00edses como Venezuela existe ya una conexi\u00f3n y una deportaci\u00f3n que no s\u00f3lo se ha intensificado desde la salida o la captura de Nicol\u00e1s Maduro, sino previamente ve\u00edamos el env\u00edo de migrantes. De hecho hay un plan que se llama, en Venezuela lo llaman \u201cVuelta a la Patria\u201d, algo as\u00ed, que los reciben con bombos y platillos, con videos, con regalos, etc\u00e9tera. \u00bfPor qu\u00e9, por ejemplo, un migrante\u2026 se toma esta decisi\u00f3n de que vaya a un tercer pa\u00eds? \u00bfEs inclusivamente porque su pa\u00eds no lo acepta o es una pol\u00edtica que busca m\u00e1s como marcar un precedente de los riesgos que puedes acarrear si est\u00e1s aqu\u00ed en el pa\u00eds y enfrentas una orden de deportaci\u00f3n o tienes un asilo pendiente?<\/p>\n<p>ABOGADA MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nPueden ser varias de esas razones que usted menciona. Por ejemplo, le voy a leer exactamente, la decisi\u00f3n del juez dice: esto aplica para personas que est\u00e9n en deportaciones bajo la secci\u00f3n 240, que es un proceso de deportaci\u00f3n regular; bajo la deportaci\u00f3n 241, que son los que est\u00e1n en expedited removal, que est\u00e1n poniendo ahora en expedited removal; y 238, personas que est\u00e1n, por ejemplo, en withholding of removal o withholding-only cases. \u00bfQu\u00e9 quiere decir eso? Mire, hay personas que\u2026 le doy un ejemplo pr\u00e1ctico para que la gente entienda, porque es bastante t\u00e9cnico, pero les puedo explicar muy sencillito.<\/p>\n<p>Si una persona entr\u00f3 a los Estados Unidos hace 30 a\u00f1os y hace cinco a\u00f1os, con esta maravilla de notario, de paralegal o de defraudador, que le dijo: \u201cNo, venga, usted s\u00ed califica para un asilo\u201d, y le presenta una petici\u00f3n de asilo\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Si esa persona entra en una petici\u00f3n de asilo despu\u00e9s de estar ya hace 25, 30 a\u00f1os ac\u00e1, esa petici\u00f3n, lo \u00fanico que puede entrar es como se la van a negar y lo van a mandar a la corte, y la persona puede pedir un withholding of removal. O puede ser tambi\u00e9n personas que ya tienen una deportaci\u00f3n y surgi\u00f3 la posibilidad de pedir un withholding, que es un beneficio para quedarse en el pa\u00eds porque su vida corre peligro en el pa\u00eds de origen.<\/p>\n<p>Entonces, esta decisi\u00f3n aplica a cualquier persona que est\u00e9 en esas circunstancias. Entonces, si es por ejemplo el caso de un withholding que a la persona se lo aprobaron y est\u00e1\u2026 si a la persona le aprobaron un withholding quiere decir que la persona tiene una deportaci\u00f3n, pero no la van a ejecutar, y se va a quedar aqu\u00ed. La persona puede pedir permiso de trabajo, puede quedarse en los Estados Unidos. Pero el gobierno puede deportarlo a un tercer pa\u00eds. No lo puede deportar al pa\u00eds del que le dieron el withholding.<\/p>\n<p>No puede regresar a Per\u00fa o a Colombia, Venezuela, qu\u00e9 s\u00e9 yo. Pero entonces le dieron un withholding y el gobierno dice: \u201cAh, a m\u00ed\u2026 t\u00fa no puedes mandarme all\u00e1, pero yo te voy a mandar a Honduras o te voy a mandar a Zoda y te voy a mandar a\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nEcuador, Ecuador, que es otro pa\u00eds que tambi\u00e9n ha actuado, ha estado en este acuerdo de recibir inmigrantes. Guatemala tambi\u00e9n.<\/p>\n<p>ABOGADA MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nEntonces, lo pueden enviar a esos terceros pa\u00edses, pues, aunque la persona\u2026 o aunque tenga este beneficio de lo que\u2026 Entonces es\u2026 es\u2026 es una situaci\u00f3n un poco complicada.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nBueno, pero tambi\u00e9n habla un poco de la independencia judicial que hay en el pa\u00eds y cuando el juez falla. Son una de las cosas ricas de esta naci\u00f3n. Cuando vemos decisiones que los tribunales levantan su voz y dicen: \u201cEsto no puede ocurrir\u201d, brindan cierta confianza al pa\u00eds y a la gente que est\u00e1 enfrentando estos procesos. \u00bfQu\u00e9 recomendaci\u00f3n se les puede dar? Como estamos hablando de un periodo de 15 d\u00edas que todav\u00eda podemos ver estos casos, usted me lo dice, estamos a la espera, por supuesto, de la palabra clave que es apelaci\u00f3n, donde el gobierno ya dice: \u201cAh, ya va, yo estoy en contra de esta decisi\u00f3n del juez\u201d. \u00bfCu\u00e1l ser\u00eda la actitud m\u00e1s inteligente que cualquier migrante que pueda estar pasando por este proceso debe tomar tras conocer esta decisi\u00f3n?<\/p>\n<p>ABOGADA MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nYo pienso que lo primero que va a hacer esa persona, sobre todo los que est\u00e9n en detenci\u00f3n, es, aunque no tengan abogado, hacer una carta, aunque sea a mano, con su pu\u00f1o y letra, pas\u00e1rsela a su deportador o al centro donde est\u00e1 de detenci\u00f3n, y que diga: \u201cYo tengo miedo de ser enviado a un tercer pa\u00eds. A m\u00ed no me env\u00eden a un tercer pa\u00eds. No quiero que me env\u00eden a un tercer pa\u00eds\u201d, aunque de acuerdo a este fallo lo pueden hacer dentro de los 15 d\u00edas siguientes. O conseguir un abogado que lo haga.<\/p>\n<p>Pero si no tiene la plata, si ya est\u00e1 cansado de pagar abogado o no tiene el dinero, pues haga una carta, inf\u00f3rmese, m\u00e1ndesela al deportador, trate de comunicarse con ese deportador si est\u00e1 todav\u00eda detenido y diga: \u201cYo tengo miedo de ir a ese tercer pa\u00eds. Yo no quiero que me deporten a un tercer pa\u00eds. Yo soy ciudadano de tal parte y me opongo a que me deporten a tal pa\u00eds y me quiero proteger con la decisi\u00f3n del caso del juez de Massachusetts\u201d. Ese caso es DVD versus Department of Homeland Security. D de dedo, V de V\u00edctor, D de dedo. DVD.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nPerfecto, perfecto. Much\u00edsimas gracias por aclarar esto. Y quiero aprovechar que la tengo porque tengo preguntas que me hacen muchas personas sobre procesos que ya tienen en curso. Ejemplo, ayer una persona me dec\u00eda\u2026 oye, bueno, para ser sinceros, dos me indicaban: \u201cOye, tengo un proceso de asilo pendiente y frente a todos los cambios que se est\u00e1 dando, tengo miedo de viajar, tengo miedo de montarme en un avi\u00f3n, aunque tengo un proceso pendiente en USCIS\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Por otra parte, conozco gente que s\u00ed se atreve, se monta y viaja y no ha pasado nada. Enhorabuena. Me refiero a personas que tienen alg\u00fan tipo de caso pendiente y me dec\u00edan: \u201cNo s\u00e9 qu\u00e9 hacer. No s\u00e9 si dejarme llevar por la suerte\u201d. Y aunque es una decisi\u00f3n muy particular, no s\u00e9 qu\u00e9 hacer cuando un cliente le presenta a usted esa duda. \u00bfQu\u00e9 le dice?<\/p>\n<p>ABOGADA MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nQue no viajen. Yo les estoy recomendando a mis clientes que la verdad, si se pueden abstener de un viaje porque no sea apremiante, no sea urgente, no viajen. En este momento estamos en una situaci\u00f3n dif\u00edcil donde hay redadas en cualquier ciudad, en cualquier parte, en cualquier momento, y no sabemos cu\u00e1ndo le va a tocar a la persona.<\/p>\n<p>Por ejemplo, recientemente, le digo, Orian, hay muchas redadas en los Cayos de aqu\u00ed de la Florida. Muchas, muchas. Y en la oficina ya he tenido m\u00e1s de tres casos en una semana, digo, tres casos en una semana, de personas arrestadas en el sur de la Florida, en los Cayos. Los Cayos est\u00e1 siendo un sitio muy f\u00e1cil para hacer redadas, y est\u00e1 pasando. Entonces las personas tienen que tener cuidado. As\u00ed como puede ser aqu\u00ed en Miami en las calles, puede ser en otro\u2026 en nuestro estado. Los estados como Chicago, los estados como California, son estados donde hay muchas redadas.<\/p>\n<p>En New York han parado un poquito, pero hubo muchas redadas. Entonces, mi consejo para las personas es: si su viaje no es urgente, si no es obligatorio por su trabajo, no viaje. Ahora, si es por trabajo, si es urgente, tiene que viajar: trate de viajar con sus jefes, con un grupo, trate de tener toda su documentaci\u00f3n al d\u00eda, que ser\u00eda la prueba de que su asilo est\u00e1 pendiente, su permiso de trabajo, su licencia de conducir, su pasaporte vigente. Trate de tener toda la documentaci\u00f3n que pruebe que la persona tiene alg\u00fan tipo de estatus o est\u00e1 pendiente de algo, porque no creo que la situaci\u00f3n est\u00e9 tan\u2026 agradable como para que la gente est\u00e9 viajando en este momento.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nNo, yo no lo comprendo porque, por ejemplo, muchas personas aqu\u00ed trabajan, todos trabajamos, quiero decir, hay momentos donde dice: \u201cBueno, necesito este fin de semana quiz\u00e1s me voy a Nueva York a disfrutar algo distinto, a disfrutar del Times Square, no s\u00e9, comerme algo, visitar un familiar que tengo en Carolina del Norte\u201d, y vi los pasajes baratos y quiero ir a visitarlo. Entonces es una situaci\u00f3n complicada.<\/p>\n<p>Por ejemplo, yo vivo en Miami, pero hay momentos que mi Miami me ahoga. O sea, siento que voy a Kendall, subo a Fort Lauderdale y es lo mismo. Entonces siempre busco uno, uno, uno\u2026 un escape. Pero si la recomendaci\u00f3n es esa, es importante.<\/p>\n<p>Si tiene que hacer el viaje, bueno, lo ha dicho la abogada Martha Arias: lleve todos sus documentos, lleve su pasaporte, lleve su asilo pendiente y encomiende\u2026 Yo creo que me sorprende porque cuando he estado en aeropuertos recientemente todav\u00eda no he visto en el aeropuerto que se lleven a alguien. Eso no lo he visto yo. Pero claro, yo no estoy todo el d\u00eda en el aeropuerto ni en los aeropuertos del pa\u00eds. Entonces para evitar un susto, es lo m\u00e1s sensato, \u00bfno?<\/p>\n<p>ABOGADA MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nBueno, yo le voy a decir una cosa: yo tampoco personalmente he visto a nadie siendo arrestado en un aeropuerto. Tampoco creo que lo vayan a hacer tan a la vista. Si lo hacen, de pronto lo hacen de forma m\u00e1s diplom\u00e1tica. Sin embargo, sin embargo, s\u00ed le puedo decir que hay colegas, abogados de inmigraci\u00f3n, que me han dicho que se han bajado vuelos nacionales y al bajarse hay oficiales de ICE al bajarse del avi\u00f3n. Los identifican. No est\u00e1n con chaleco ni nada, pero son abogados que llevan a\u00f1os haciendo esto, identifican a ciertos oficiales, y se les han acercado y les han dicho: \u201c\u00bfUsted qu\u00e9 hace aqu\u00ed? \u00bfUsted est\u00e1 trabajando?\u201d No s\u00e9 qu\u00e9, y los oficiales est\u00e1n trabajando.<\/p>\n<p>Entonces, puede que s\u00ed haya oficiales de ICE al bajar de los aviones locales. Puede que nosotros ni nadie hayamos visto nada porque no est\u00e1n con chalecos, no est\u00e1n marcados.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nS\u00ed, s\u00ed, s\u00ed, era lo que yo le dec\u00eda. Es que yo le dec\u00eda a una amiga \u2014y lo digo con parte de esa conversaci\u00f3n\u2014 yo le dec\u00eda ayer: \u201cBueno, es que conozco gente que hab\u00eda viajado\u2026\u201d y en m\u00e1s gente que no tiene estatus y que puede salir sin problemas, gente con asilo pendiente y ha viajado. No puedo reportar que en la pr\u00e1ctica yo haya recibido m\u00e1s\u2026 Si alguien ve este video y me dice: \u201cS\u00ed, estuve en este aeropuerto y la situaci\u00f3n es complicada\u201d, le agradezco eso. Nutre, brinda informaci\u00f3n de c\u00f3mo se est\u00e1 viviendo porque no tenemos los ojos en los 50 estados.<\/p>\n<p>ABOGADA MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nEso es lo que ve la gente: empezar a dar esa informaci\u00f3n.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nClaro, para conocer d\u00f3nde est\u00e1 el sorteo, o sea, es decir, en qu\u00e9 aeropuerto donde se ve mayor presencia de estos oficiales y as\u00ed la gente que est\u00e9 en una situaci\u00f3n vulnerable evite alg\u00fan tipo de situaci\u00f3n compleja. Es lo que podemos decir por ahora.<\/p>\n<p>Abogada, me gustar\u00eda que d\u00e9 un n\u00famero de contacto, por supuesto, porque en estos momentos donde es importante tener algo que te ate al pa\u00eds \u2014y ojo, cuando digo algo que te ate, quiero decir hay muchas alternativas; no tiene que ser exclusivamente el asilo\u2014 de repente hay una empresa que te quiere pedir, de repente tienes una\u2026 no s\u00e9, hay muchos tr\u00e1mites. Yo no soy abogado, pero tiene que sentarse con uno para que le explique cu\u00e1l es el mejor camino, y usted yo s\u00e9 que puede orientar.<\/p>\n<p>ABOGADA MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nEfectivamente, pues varias cosas. Uno, mi p\u00e1gina web es www.ariasvilla.com<br \/>\n. Arias, mi apellido; Villa, todo junto; AriasVilla\u2026 el nombre del bufete de abogados: AriasVilla.com. El tel\u00e9fono es (305) 671-0018. Ese es el tel\u00e9fono de la oficina. Y hay otro n\u00famero que es (305) 233-3110; es el celular de la oficina donde pueden llamar, incluso que si est\u00e1n en otra parte pueden contactarnos por WhatsApp: (305) 233-3110. Y AriasVilla.com. En Instagram estamos como @Martha_Arias98.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nAdem\u00e1s, la abogada Martha Arias preside\u2026 Yo s\u00e9 que sus opiniones en este espacio \u2014y lo aclaro\u2014 tiene que ver con su experiencia como abogada, pero ya preside en la asociaci\u00f3n de abogados de inmigraci\u00f3n, \u00bfno?<\/p>\n<p>ABOGADA MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nCorrecto. Mi t\u00e9rmino es 25-26. Tambi\u00e9n, oye, mi t\u00e9rmino pronto\u2026 en mayo.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\n\u00bfEst\u00e1s satisfecha con el trabajo que se ha hecho?<\/p>\n<p>ABOGADA MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nS\u00ed, mucho. Estoy muy satisfecha con mi trabajo. La mayor\u00eda de la membres\u00eda me ha expresado su gratitud.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nS\u00ed, yo he escuchado, yo he preguntado a colega suyo y me dice: \u201cS\u00ed, no, ya est\u00e1 all\u00ed trabajando activamente\u201d, y le tiene mucho aprecio, me lo han dicho.<\/p>\n<p>ABOGADA MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nExactamente. As\u00ed que bueno, habr\u00e1 alguno que otro que de pronto no le gustamos, como toda la vida. Pero el grupo, la mayor\u00eda, s\u00ed, est\u00e1n todos muy contentos. Y bueno, yo tambi\u00e9n estoy muy satisfecha con mi labor.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nIgual aqu\u00ed me pasa lo mismo en este canal: hay mucha gente muy amable que me mand\u00f3 un correo, lo agradece, me deja bendiciones, lo valoro. Me escriben por Instagram tambi\u00e9n cuando por aqu\u00ed no respondo y buen\u00edsimo. Y hay otros u otras personas que, bueno, se me quieren poner casi que en el pared\u00f3n, pero bueno, es parte de la vida, es parte de la vida. No pasa nada.<\/p>\n<p>Yo acepto lo que s\u00ed acepto: son las cr\u00edticas constructivas. A gusto, pongo una banderita aqu\u00ed para que se vea algo. Pues bueno, esto lo quiero condicionar para que por supuesto se crezca mucho m\u00e1s. Pero hay gente que me pide: \u201cPon una banderita para que no sea tan blanco\u201d, o \u201cDeja hablar m\u00e1s\u201d. Esas cr\u00edticas\u2026 yo las acepto. Ya cuando me quieren para el pared\u00f3n, ya la cosa cambia.<\/p>\n<p>ABOGADA MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nExacto. S\u00ed. O sea, todo lo que es positivo vale. Y lo que yo considero siempre tambi\u00e9n lo tomo as\u00ed: es en las redes sociales, todos, todos, no importa qui\u00e9n, todos tenemos que tener cuidado con lo que publicamos, porque en las redes sociales nada desaparece. Aunque las personas borren lo que escribieron, en el futuro eso le puede causar un problema.<\/p>\n<p>Y aprovecho esa oportunidad tambi\u00e9n para decirlo porque, por ejemplo, usted sabe muy bien que la inmigraci\u00f3n y sobre todo el Departamento de Estado est\u00e1 pidiendo la informaci\u00f3n de las redes sociales de las personas, y la persona cree que no va a pasar nada o que si borra no va a existir. Claro, lo que queda en las redes va a quedar y las redes sociales es un gran mecanismo de investigaci\u00f3n de las autoridades. Sean m\u00e1s cuidadosos, sobre todo personas que ponen comentarios violentos o amenazantes, porque aunque se est\u00e9n desahogando\u2026 en el futuro esa informaci\u00f3n no sabe si le va a salir, le va a ser perjudicial.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nY al final hay que tener responsabilidad con todo lo que hacemos. Hay que tener responsabilidad al momento de actuar. Podemos expresar abiertamente nuestro desacuerdo con algunas cosas. No pasa absolutamente nada. Yo lo hago: cuando algo no me gusta digo: \u201cNo estoy de acuerdo con esto\u201d, \u201cEsto s\u00ed lo apoyo\u201d, pero siempre tiene que hacerse con responsabilidad y respeto. Las dos ERRES son fundamentales.<\/p>\n<p>No, al momento: \u201cNo estoy de acuerdo con esta precisi\u00f3n\u201d, perfecto, \u201cNo estoy de acuerdo\u201d, pero ya aprovechar\u2026 y adem\u00e1s que la gente es muy valiente cuando est\u00e1 a trav\u00e9s de una red, pero frente a frente no creo que exista la misma\u2026 el mismo gu\u00e1ramo, como dicen en Venezuela, el embalentonamiento para tratar, ser embalentonado y atacar al otro. Pero bueno, es lo que hay. Hay que tener responsabilidad.<\/p>\n<p>Y parte de esa responsabilidad implica, amigos, que si usted tiene alguna duda, consulte con un profesional. No tenga miedo, tenga la confianza, act\u00fae con certeza. Los pasos firmes son en este momento fundamentales para evitar cualquier tipo de complicaci\u00f3n.<\/p>\n<p>Deje sus preguntas, comentarios. Igualmente est\u00e1 el contacto de la abogada Martha Arias, abogada de inmigraci\u00f3n, para que usted, si tiene alguna duda, pues se comunique con ella. Y ah\u00ed est\u00e1 en su oficina, como la pueden ver, esper\u00e1ndolo para que usted lo atienda. Muchas gracias.<\/p>\n<p>ABOGADA MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nGracias a usted, Orian.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nY no se me pierda, que yo s\u00e9 que estamos y que vamos a tratar de conectarnos un poquito m\u00e1s. A ustedes un fuerte abrazo y gracias. Ser\u00e1 hasta la pr\u00f3xima. Cu\u00eddense mucho.<\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_row wpb_row vc_row-fluid\"><div class=\"wpb_column vc_column_container vc_col-sm-12\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"vc_separator wpb_content_element vc_separator_align_center vc_sep_width_100 vc_sep_pos_align_center vc_separator_no_text vc_sep_color_grey\" ><span class=\"vc_sep_holder vc_sep_holder_l\"><span class=\"vc_sep_line\"><\/span><\/span><span class=\"vc_sep_holder vc_sep_holder_r\"><span class=\"vc_sep_line\"><\/span><\/span>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div id=\"english\" class=\"vc_row wpb_row vc_row-fluid wd-rs-69a23688c611f\"><div class=\"wpb_column vc_column_container vc_col-sm-12\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\">\t\t<div id=\"wd-6a20da4ee458c\" class=\"wd-text-block wd-wpb reset-last-child wd-rs-6a20da4ee458c text-left\">\n\t\t\t<p><strong>English Translation<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nHello, today is a good day, friends. Thank you for being there, for connecting with this space. So I invite everyone to connect because there is good news. A federal judge in Massachusetts has just stopped a key practice in deportations. The court ruled that the Trump administration cannot send immigrants to a third country without first trying to deport them to the country listed in their final order of removal and without giving them the opportunity to defend themselves.<\/p>\n<p>The decision by this judge establishes that the authorities must give substantial notice before any removal to a third country. Let\u2019s remember that there are several\u2026 Ecuador, even countries in Africa, that are on the list, thus guaranteeing due process and the possibility of challenging the deportation.<\/p>\n<p>What does that mean in practice? Who does this decision protect? It can change the way deportations are currently being carried out. Today I am joined by immigration attorney Martha Arias, and I am very happy to have her. I had been looking for her for days, but well, she has been very busy; we managed it and here we are. Attorney, a pleasure.<\/p>\n<p>ATTORNEY MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nThank you, Orian. Greetings to you and your entire audience. And yes, well, a bit busy. As they say in Colombia, a word that I find funny, <em>&#8220;un poco escasa, pero aqu\u00ed estoy&#8221;<\/em> (\u201c<em>I\u2019ve been a little busy, but here I am.<\/em>\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nWell, but you are\u2026<\/p>\n<p>ATTORNEY MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nThat is a comical word to apply to people.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nAnd it applies when people are quite busy, when already\u2026 And of course, these changes in immigration matters have many professionals like you running from here to there with your clients. But I\u2019m glad that today we reconnect with good news. How do you evaluate this judge\u2019s decision and how could it impact those migrants who have a deportation order, for example?<\/p>\n<p>ATTORNEY MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nLet\u2019s see, how can it impact those who have a deportation order, you say?<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nYes, and above all, well, let\u2019s remember that this strategy of sending migrants to a third country as well, and you can correct me, also affected people who are requesting asylum, that they would take them to a third country to wait.<\/p>\n<p>ATTORNEY MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nExactly. Well, how does it affect them? At this moment, what this Massachusetts judge did yesterday, February 25, as you said, was, number one, to overturn that current administrative policy of DHS, Department of Homeland Security, of ICE, of deporting people to third countries. He overturns it.<\/p>\n<p>However, he gives a pause of 15 days. That is, within the next 15 days, starting from this decision, the government can implement or continue implementing this policy. After 15 days, we will see if it is appealed and whether an injunction would be granted while the appeal is pending.<\/p>\n<p>So, in 15 days we can still see these deportations. After 15 days we will wait and see. The good news, as you say, is that the policy is overturned. Now, what are the reasons the judge overturns this policy? There are two important things. One, he considers it illegal, and two, unconstitutional. Illegal because it violates federal law. And unconstitutional, obviously, because it violates the Constitution and specifically due process.<\/p>\n<p>The order says, the judge says, that these people are not given meaningful notice that they are going to be deported to a third country; that is the first thing. The second is that they are also not given a real opportunity to challenge or object to that removal to a third country; and that is where I don\u2019t know if you want me to explain\u2026<\/p>\n<p>The situation that is happening with these deportations to third countries, as you said, is that if a person has a deportation because they have had a deportation from a long time ago and ICE catches them, well, they can deport them not to their country, but to that third country. As you said, many people who are applying for asylum, who had a pending asylum, also then received this deportation or could be deported to third countries.<\/p>\n<p>What happens, Orian? When a person has a final order of deportation, the final order of deportation says, the judge says, where the person is to be deported to and if there is an alternative country. I\u2019ll give you an example: a person goes and asks for asylum. The person is, for example, from Venezuela. The judge says: deportation is ordered to Venezuela and, alternatively, to Italy, if the person is also a citizen of Italy. And if it were like that, if it is not ordered to Venezuela, what happens? Well, they come and take this person and send them to Sudan, to Uganda, out there, to the end of the world. That is one.<\/p>\n<p>They have no contact, they have no ties, they have never been in Uganda or in South Africa or in I don\u2019t know where, and they are sending them there. But the judge, when he ordered the deportation, said the person was deported to Venezuela. So there we already have a problem, because the judge did not say to deport them to South Africa, Uganda, or the end of the world. He said: deport to Venezuela, or alternatively to X country.<\/p>\n<p>So there we have a problem because the law is being violated; the law says the person must be deported to that country.<\/p>\n<p>Second, the person has the right to object or to be given notice. So, if they take the person and send them to Uganda without telling them: \u201cLook, Mr. so-and-so, they are not going to send you to Venezuela; they are going to send you to the end of the world,\u201d that person has the right to say: \u201cNo, it\u2019s that they will kill me at the end of the world too,\u201d or \u201cI am afraid to go to the end of the world; you know what, send me to Venezuela.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That is\u2026 essentially it is not even that the government is saying\u2026 this government is saying: \u201cYou cannot deport them.\u201d In general terms, what it is saying is: they must be given notice with meaningful advance time and they must be given the opportunity to object.<\/p>\n<p>That is what this decision gives. The nonprofit agencies that are suing these cases are agencies that are doing, let\u2019s say, all the work, putting in the muscle, as they say in English, to help immigrants in this very difficult situation, which is deportations to third countries.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nWhy was this used as a policy? And your view catches my attention because look, for example, in the case of countries like Venezuela there is already a connection and a deportation that has not only intensified since the exit or the capture of Nicol\u00e1s Maduro, but previously we were seeing the sending of migrants. In fact, there is a plan that is called, in Venezuela they call it \u201cReturn to the Homeland,\u201d something like that, where they receive them with fanfare, with videos, with gifts, etcetera.<\/p>\n<p>Why, for example, would a migrant\u2026 would this decision be made that they go to a third country? Is it even because their country does not accept them, or is it a policy that seeks more to mark a precedent of the risks you can face if you are here in the country and you face a deportation order or you have a pending asylum?<\/p>\n<p>ATTORNEY MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nIt can be several of those reasons you mention. For example, I am going to read you exactly: the judge\u2019s decision says this applies to people who are in deportations under section 240, which is a regular deportation process; under deportation 241, which are the ones that are in expedited removal, that they are now placing in expedited removal; and 238, people who are, for example, in withholding of removal or withholding-only cases. What does that mean? Look, there are people who\u2026 I will give a practical example so people understand, because it is quite technical, but I can explain it very simply.<\/p>\n<p>If a person entered the United States 30 years ago and five years ago, with this wonderful notary, paralegal, or fraudster, who told them: \u201cNo, come, you do qualify for asylum,\u201d and files an asylum application for them\u2026<\/p>\n<p>If that person files an asylum application after already being here 25, 30 years, that application, the only thing that can happen is that they are going to deny it and send them to court, and the person can request withholding of removal. Or it can also be people who already have a deportation and the possibility arose to request withholding, which is a benefit to remain in the country because their life is in danger in the country of origin.<\/p>\n<p>So, this decision applies to anyone who is in those circumstances. So, if it is for example the case of a withholding that was approved for the person and is\u2026 if the person was approved for withholding, it means the person has a deportation, but they are not going to execute it, and they are going to stay here. The person can request a work permit, can stay in the United States. But the government can deport them to a third country. It cannot deport them to the country from which they were granted withholding.<\/p>\n<p>They cannot go back to Peru or to Colombia, Venezuela, who knows. But then they were given withholding and the government says: \u201cAh, to me\u2026 you cannot send me there, but I will send you to Honduras or I will send you to Zoda and I will send you to\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nEcuador, Ecuador, which is another country that has also acted, has been in this agreement to receive immigrants. Guatemala as well.<\/p>\n<p>ATTORNEY MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nSo, they can send them to those third countries, well, even though the person\u2026 or even though they have this benefit of what\u2026 So it is, it is, it is a situation a bit complicated.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nWell, but it also speaks a bit about the judicial independence that exists in the country and when the judge rules. They are one of the rich things of this nation. When we see decisions where the courts raise their voice and say, \u201cThis cannot happen,\u201d they provide a certain confidence to the country and to the people who are facing these processes. What recommendation can be given to them? Since we are talking about a period of 15 days in which we can still see these cases, you tell me, we are waiting, of course, for the key word which is appeal, where the government already says, \u201cAh, hold on, I am against this judge\u2019s decision.\u201d What would be the smartest attitude that any migrant who may be going through this process should take after learning of this decision?<\/p>\n<p>ATTORNEY MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nI think the first thing that person is going to do, especially those who are in detention, is, even if they do not have a lawyer, to make a letter, even handwritten, with their own hand, give it to their deportation officer or to the detention center where they are, and that it says: \u201cI am afraid of being sent to a third country. Do not send me to a third country. I do not want to be sent to a third country,\u201d even though according to this ruling they can do it within the next 15 days. Or get a lawyer to do it.<\/p>\n<p>But if they do not have the money, if they are already tired of paying a lawyer or do not have the money, then make a letter, inform yourself, send it to the deportation officer, try to communicate with that deportation officer if you are still detained and say: \u201cI am afraid to go to that third country. I do not want to be deported to a third country. I am a citizen of such-and-such place and I object to being deported to such-and-such country and I want to protect myself with the decision in the Massachusetts judge case.\u201d That case is DVD versus Department of Homeland Security. D as in finger, V as in Victor, D as in finger. DVD.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nPerfect, perfect. Thank you very much for clarifying this. And I want to take advantage since I have you because I have questions that many people ask me about processes they already have underway. Example, yesterday a person was telling me\u2026 hey, well, to be honest, two were telling me: \u201cHey, I have a pending asylum process and faced with all the changes that are happening, I am afraid to travel, I am afraid to get on a plane, even though I have a pending process in USCIS.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, I know people who do dare, they get on and travel and nothing has happened. Great. I am referring to people who have some kind of pending case and they told me: \u201cI don\u2019t know what to do. I don\u2019t know whether to let myself be guided by luck.\u201d And although it is a very particular decision, I don\u2019t know what to do when a client presents you with that doubt. What do you tell them?<\/p>\n<p>ATTORNEY MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nThat they should not travel. I am recommending to my clients that honestly, if they can refrain from a trip because it is not pressing, it is not urgent, they should not travel. Right now we are in a difficult situation where there are raids in any city, anywhere, at any moment, and we do not know when it will be that person\u2019s turn.<\/p>\n<p>For example, recently, I tell you, Orian, there are many raids in the Keys here in Florida. Many, many. And in the office I have already had more than three cases in one week, I mean three cases in one week, of people arrested in South Florida in the Keys. The Keys is becoming a very easy place to do raids, and it is happening. So people have to be careful. Just as it can be here in Miami on the streets, it can be in another\u2026 in our state. States like Chicago, states like California, are states where there are many raids.<\/p>\n<p>In New York they have slowed down a little, but there were many raids. So my advice to people is: if your trip is not urgent, if it is not mandatory for your work, do not travel. Now, if it is for work, if it is urgent, you have to travel: try to travel with your bosses, with a group, try to have all your documentation up to date, which would be proof that your asylum is pending, your work permit, your driver\u2019s license, your valid passport. Try to have all the documentation that proves the person has some kind of status or has something pending, because I do not think the situation is that\u2026 pleasant for people to be traveling at this moment.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nNo, I understand it because, for example, many people here work, we all work, I mean, there are moments where you say, \u201cWell I need this weekend, maybe I go to New York to enjoy something different, to enjoy Times Square, I don\u2019t know, eat something, visit a relative I have in North Carolina,\u201d and I saw cheap tickets and I want to go visit. So it\u2019s a complicated situation.<\/p>\n<p>For example, I live in Miami, but there are moments when my Miami suffocates me. I mean, I feel like I go to Kendall, I go up to Fort Lauderdale and it\u2019s the same. So I always look for an escape. But if the recommendation is that, it is important.<\/p>\n<p>If you have to make the trip, well, attorney Martha Arias has said it: bring all your documents, bring your passport, bring your pending asylum and entrust yourself\u2026 I think it surprises me because when I have been in airports recently, I still haven\u2019t seen at the airport that they take someone away. I haven\u2019t seen that. But of course, I am not at the airport all day nor in all the airports in the country. So to avoid a scare, it is the most sensible thing, right?<\/p>\n<p>ATTORNEY MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nWell, I will tell you one thing: I also personally have not seen anyone being arrested at an airport. I also don\u2019t think they are going to do it so visibly. If they do it, perhaps they do it in a more diplomatic way. However, however, I can tell you that there are colleagues, immigration attorneys, who have told me that they have gotten off domestic flights and when getting off there are ICE officers when they get off the plane. They identify them. They are not wearing vests or anything, but they are attorneys who have been doing this for years, they identify certain officers, and they have approached them and told them, \u201cWhat are you doing here? Are you working?\u201d I don\u2019t know what, and the officers are working.<\/p>\n<p>So, it may be that there are ICE officers when getting off local flights. It may be that neither we nor anyone has seen anything because they are not wearing vests, they are not marked.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nYes, yes, yes, that\u2019s what I was telling you. It\u2019s that I was telling a friend \u2014and I say it as part of that conversation\u2014 I was telling her yesterday: \u201cWell, it\u2019s that I know people who had traveled\u2026\u201d and more people who don\u2019t have status and who can go out without problems, people with pending asylum and they have traveled. I cannot report that in practice I have received more\u2026 If someone watches this video and tells me, \u201cYes, I was at this airport and the situation is complicated,\u201d I appreciate that. It feeds, it provides information on how it is being lived because we do not have eyes in all 50 states.<\/p>\n<p>ATTORNEY MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nThat is what people see: starting to give that information.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nOf course, to know where the draw is, meaning, in which airport where there is greater presence of these officers, and thus people who are in a vulnerable situation avoid some kind of complex situation. That is what we can say for now.<\/p>\n<p>Attorney, I would like you to give a contact number, of course, because in these moments where it is important to have something that ties you to the country \u2014and attention, when I say something that ties you, I mean there are many alternatives; it does not have to be exclusively asylum\u2014 maybe there is a company that wants to petition you, maybe you have a\u2026 I don\u2019t know, there are many procedures. I am not a lawyer, but you have to sit down with one so they can explain what the best path is, and I know you can guide.<\/p>\n<p>ATTORNEY MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nExactly, well, several things. One, my website is www.ariasvilla.com. Arias, my last name, Villa all together; AriasVilla\u2026 the name of the law firm. AriasVilla.com. The phone is <a href=\"tel:+13056710018\"><strong>(305) 671-0018<\/strong><\/a>. That is the office phone. And there is another number which is <a href=\"tel:+13052333110\"><strong>(305) 233-3110<\/strong><\/a>; it is the office cell where you can call, and even if you are elsewhere you can contact us by <strong>WhatsApp: (305) 233-3110<\/strong>. And <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/ariasvilla.com\/es\/\">AriasVilla.com<\/a><\/strong>. On Instagram we are <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/martha_arias98\/\"><strong>@Martha_Arias98<\/strong><\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nAlso, attorney Martha Arias presides\u2026 I know that your opinions in this space \u2014and I clarify it\u2014 have to do with your experience as an attorney, but you already preside in the immigration attorneys association, right?<\/p>\n<p>ATTORNEY MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nCorrect. My term is 25-26. Also, hey, my term soon\u2026 in May.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nAre you satisfied with the work that has been done?<\/p>\n<p>ATTORNEY MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nYes, very much. I am very satisfied with my work. The majority of the membership has expressed their gratitude to me.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nYes, I have heard it, I have asked a colleague of yours and he tells me, \u201cYes, no, she is already there working actively,\u201d and they have a lot of appreciation for you, they have told me.<\/p>\n<p>ATTORNEY MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nExactly. So well, there will be one or another who maybe doesn\u2019t like us, like in all of life. But the group, the majority, yes, they are all very happy. And well, I am also very satisfied with my work.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nThe same happens to me here on this channel: there are many very kind people who sent me an email, they thank me, they leave me blessings, I value it. They write to me on Instagram too when I don\u2019t respond here, and great. And there are other people who, well, they want to almost put me before a firing squad, but well, it\u2019s part of life, it\u2019s part of life. Nothing happens.<\/p>\n<p>I accept what I do accept: constructive criticism. With pleasure, I put a little flag here so that something can be seen. Well, I want to condition that so that of course it grows much more. But there are people who ask me, \u201cPut a little flag so it won\u2019t be so white,\u201d or \u201cLet people talk more,\u201d or those criticisms\u2026 I accept them. When they want to put me before a firing squad, that\u2019s when things change.<\/p>\n<p>ATTORNEY MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nExactly. Yes. I mean, everything that is positive is worth it, and what I always consider, I also take it that way: on social media, everyone, everyone, no matter who, we all have to be careful with what we publish, because on social media nothing disappears. Even if people delete what they wrote, in the future that can cause them a problem.<\/p>\n<p>And I take advantage of that opportunity also to say it because, for example, you know very well that immigration, and especially the Department of State, is asking for people\u2019s social media information, and the person thinks nothing will happen or that if they delete it, it won\u2019t exist. Of course, what remains on social media will remain, and social media is a great investigation mechanism for the authorities. Be more careful, especially people who post violent or threatening comments, because even if they are venting\u2026 in the future that information, you don\u2019t know if it will come up, it will be harmful.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nAnd in the end we have to have responsibility with everything we do. We have to have responsibility at the moment of acting. We can openly express our disagreement with some things. Nothing happens at all. I do it: when I don\u2019t like something I say, \u201cI don\u2019t agree with this,\u201d \u201cI do support this,\u201d but it always has to be done with responsibility and respect. The two R\u2019s are fundamental.<\/p>\n<p>No, at the moment: \u201cI don\u2019t agree with this point,\u201d perfect, \u201cI don\u2019t agree,\u201d but then to take advantage\u2026 and also people are very brave when they are behind a network, but face to face I don\u2019t think the same exists, the same \u201cgu\u00e1ramo,\u201d as they say in Venezuela, the boldness to try to be emboldened and attack the other. But well, that\u2019s what there is. We have to have responsibility.<\/p>\n<p>And part of that responsibility implies, friends, that if you have any doubt, consult a professional. Do not be afraid, have confidence, act with certainty. Firm steps are at this moment fundamental to avoid any type of complication.<\/p>\n<p>Leave your questions, comments. Likewise, there is the contact for attorney Martha Arias, immigration attorney, so that if you have any doubt, you contact her. And there she is in her office, as you can see her, waiting for you so that she can assist you. Thank you very much.<\/p>\n<p>ATTORNEY MARTHA ARIAS:<br \/>\nThank you, Orian.<\/p>\n<p>ORIAN BRITO:<br \/>\nAnd don\u2019t disappear on me, because I know we are here and we are going to try to connect a bit more. A big hug to you all and thank you. Until next time. 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